Not sure if this info is new or old.

Crosshair Titanium frame with Polarized lens:
1)Ti Burnt Copper w/ VR28 Blk $240
2)Titanium w/ Titanium Iridium $250

Whisker Ti frame with Polarized lens:
1)Polished Blk w/ Blk Iridium $225
2)Titanium w/ Titanium $265

both are coming your way on Dec 1st.

Oh they sound like some beautiful combos! So Many glasses so little money!
Totally love the sound of copper Crosshairs.

i just love titanium frames

Oh man, Burnt Copper/VR28 Black. That's a new dream combo if I ever heard one.

Mmmm lovely! a bit expensive but I've just been waiting for the Ti crosshairs to hit, oh yeah I can see some heading this way!!

ti/ti polarized xhair? sick.

Ohh, interesting, especially as my avatar is the female head of the Whisker family. ;)

i've been waiting for the Ti-Whiskers as well... but didn't expect the price to be this high, d'oh! oh well... looks like i'm gonna need to save up.

TI Whisker, beware of wind, it might take off.

I think the Polarization really bumps up the price too...I'm suprised they are all polarized.

Yeah Ti/Ti Crosshair sounds sick, but the price is on par with Juliets!! Too much to pay I think.

Goddamn VR28 lenses. Why does Oakley have to put such great frames with a POS lens like VR28? Yeah yeah, I know most of you like VR28. ;-p

I am with Oak on that, pretty normal combo for such a high price.

Thanks as always for the info Cal!

I'm with Phil, the Burnt Copper with VR28 Black sounds awesome! I'm officially a VR28 Black freak now!

The price may be on par with Juliets (thanks to the lenses I think), but wasn't there a thread about the Juliets being phased out? Now I'm not suggesting that Whiskers and Crosshairs are taking its place, but it could be part of a shift.

The prices look on par with the other Ti frames on simple wires compared to Juliets at the time they were out. But here's the big questions, are these frames made in the X-metal facility, or are they not treated the way X-metal is? Are they simply Ti (or another Ti alloy) and not the X-Metal alloy?

I don't think it's X-Metal: they were explicit about WHY 3 being X-Metal so I doubt they would conceal the fact for other frames.

At first I always thought that X-Metal reffered purely to the style and not the material. I would assume that any frame encorporating the X-Metal alloy would be designated as such (as per the why 3's), as opposed to it being stated that they are titanium frames. It would be nice for someone from the O to explain the difference between the two.

As for where they are made, one part of me says that Ti is a bitch to work with and is probably handled in the desert. (That sounds very "casino" doesnt it?) The other half says that the x-metal facility is set up for investment casting which I assume, due to the amount of give in the why 3's earstems, is not the method used for the production of Why 3 frames.

Then again, the components of the Time Bomb sure dont look like they have been produced using a casting process. I would imagine there would be too many nooks and crannys for the post casting treatment to give a smooth finish.

I am probably totaly wrong here but I thought I might give it a shot.

When they say Ti frames, I don't think it has anything to do with X-Metal because they're so light where X-Metal exists mainly for it's exceptional rigidity at the expense of weight & thickness. & about the price, remember the Ti/Polarized C-Wires going for $305!?!? I think Crosshair is a very classy frame & these combos will just solidify that.

Ti/Polar Halfwire is $325.

Doesn't look so bad now, does it?

I'm fairly sure that the alloy used in Ti frames (like the T-Wire and other wires) is a lightweight aluminum titanium alloy. The X-Metal alloy is heavy on the Ti, making it very rigid and heavy, both properties of Ti. The Ti added to the wires is used to give a little strength to otherwise fairly weak material. They can take mass out of the wire frame, and add a little Ti to make up the difference in strength.

Yeah Neil, I guess you're right, it's just that non-polar would knock a good $80-$100 CAD off the price making them even more tempting.

Oh and Will, the give in the temples on the WHY 3 may be flexing (flexion?) in the lens and anchors as well (no?), and I bet flexibility is also exponentially correlated with cross-section diameter and shape.

As for the Time Bomb (and other X-Metal) I thought the frames were belt-sanded by hand. Is the X-Metal finish not a finish but just X-Metal? That would explain the absence of pits.

Dont know if this has already been said but, I just got back from the Chicago-O Store and they have the Chrome/Amber Black Iridium Polarized Crosshairs. I didnt ask the SKU or anything but I just thought I'd mention it cuz I didnt see it in the catalogue.

From what I have seen on Oakley, the X-metal is their special blend, mainly Ti, yada yada, we know all that. From my experience in the bike industry Aluminum is a great alloy for light weight but is fragile and brittle. Ti is extremely light and flexible when made in the right mix. I am sure the mix is different that oakley uses for thier x-metal glasses but the coldness, feel and appearance of the x-metal definately remind me of Ti. The non x-metal Ti frames are most likely more of a traditional Ti mix which is much more costly to deal with than aluminum alloys.

I don't what it is about the crosshairs. Girls can carry them off, but it's a very specific kind of look and I don't know if it really works on me..

But I still keep looking at them, still keep wanting to buy a pair. ;)