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Oak
Twenty Fifty
Sep 19, 2018 3:12 AM
Yowzers, now I know what a $36k straight razor looks like:

https://hommage.com/grooming-equipment/18-damascene-straight-edge.html


pastor.elfstrom
Michael Elfstrom
Sep 19, 2018 8:17 AM
Well... Looks totally worth it... :D
B3
Bob Russell
Sep 19, 2018 3:09 PM
I probably still couldn't get all the hairs under my nose.
Ian
Ian Morris
Sep 19, 2018 8:05 PM



I just picked up a CRKT Pilar a couple weeks ago. Here's a pic next to a Spyderco Delica, for reference.

I dig the sheepsfoot blade. Beefy, but still workable.

I needed a "classier" knife than any of my tactical folders to take to work with me in slacks.

All my CRKTs have been awesome blades, and I still have the first one I bought 17 years ago.
oogie
paul mcj
Sep 19, 2018 11:56 PM
The Pilar is a cool little blade. It's been one of the few non-Spyderco purchases I've made. The BladeHQ exclusive was too cool and I had to grab a 2nd (orange G10, acid stonewash blade).
pastor.elfstrom
Michael Elfstrom
Sep 20, 2018 8:20 AM



I just picked up a CRKT Pilar a couple weeks ago. Here's a pic next to a Spyderco Delica, for reference.

I dig the sheepsfoot blade. Beefy, but still workable.

I needed a "classier" knife than any of my tactical folders to take to work with me in slacks.

All my CRKTs have been awesome blades, and I still have the first one I bought 17 years ago.
- Ian

I have had some great experience with CRKT too...
Oak
Twenty Fifty
Jan 13, 2019 9:07 AM
I’m gonna go on a rant. Bear with me....

Fucking Canadian laws. As of 2018, most pocket knives can’t be imported into Canada unless you have some kinda business license (like ones for firearms). Not restricted to carry within Canada itself, but restricted to import or carry into the country.

The idea is you can’t import knives that can flick open or can easily be opened by one hand. Basically centrifugal knives and assisted/automatic opening knives. Ok, fine. But apparently Canada Customs/Border Patrol can seize any folding knife as long as it can flick open, even if having been manually opened halfway or 2/3s. How crazy is that? The law is so vague that the above could include basically every folding knives!

The basic section that allows the seizure:

2. In accordance with subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code and the CITT’s recent decision in T. LaPlante, the CBSA resolves that centrifugal knives will be classified as prohibited weapons if the following conditions are met:
a. a knife has a blade that opens by centrifugal force, when the blade is released from the handle into the fully ejected and locked position with a simple and brisk outwardly flick of the wrist; and
b. it includes knives that require some preliminary or simultaneous minimal manipulation of either a flipper or other non-edged parts of the blade.

Asked to clarify the rule and the answer basically supports the virtual ban of folding knives:

Asked to expand on the CITT decision of the definition of knives that open with centrifugal force, CBSA Senior Communications Advisor Barre Campbell said, “This means any folding knife is not permitted for import into Canada where the blade can be extracted and locked into place with centrifugal force when, prior to use of centrifugal force, an item on the blade — such as a stud, disc, or flipper — or a hollowing in the blade is used to partially open the blade.”
The_Collector
Dave Anderson
Jan 13, 2019 1:59 PM
You're right on cue there! What a bullsh#*t bunch of political crap. basically you would have to buy or "rent" your equipment if one wanted to hunt game in Canada. When I was on my last ski trip we were pulled off at the border coming back to the states and the car was searched and we sat in the building for an hour and a half. When we were finally called up to the desk we thought they were going to arrest us as we had an illegal piece of fruit in a bag on the car's floor. It happened to be from California purchased in Canada only an hour before. you wonder how their commerce works when a truckload of goods is crossing either direction!
The_Collector
Dave Anderson
Jan 13, 2019 2:04 PM
Not to brag, I was the superintendent on the project for Spyderco's manufacturing expansion. they have a nice retail outlet at the factory in Golden CO and the COO gave all the workers knives as well as a nice discount at the store.
Oak
Twenty Fifty
Jan 13, 2019 3:09 PM
When we were finally called up to the desk we thought they were going to arrest us as we had an illegal piece of fruit in a bag on the car's floor. It happened to be from California purchased in Canada only an hour before. you wonder how their commerce works when a truckload of goods is crossing either direction! - The_Collector


Holy crap! It’s like they don’t even want visitors here! Sorry to hear you had to go through that.
The_Collector
Dave Anderson
Jan 13, 2019 6:43 PM
They sure don't mind you coming in and blowing a ton of tourist coin!
rich5150
Rich "MPH" Barrios
Jan 14, 2019 12:21 AM
What is the purpose of the import ban? Citizens safety?
Oak
Twenty Fifty
Jan 14, 2019 12:27 AM
Yep. They don’t want people killing each other with folding knives that can be deployed quickly. Apparently they’d much rather you kill each other with fixed blade knives that can be used directly, and which isn’t covered by this new law.

There’s always ways around a law, but it is a hassle. In this instance I bet if you separate the blade from the handle and sent them separately, you’d be able to circumvent it. But still, probably 50/50 when it comes to the decision making process for customs agents if you get caught.
rich5150
Rich "MPH" Barrios
Jan 14, 2019 12:47 AM
The_Collect, I love Spyderco knives! By far my favorite. Oogie is also a Spyderco fan as well.
rich5150
Rich "MPH" Barrios
Jan 14, 2019 1:40 AM
Yep. They don’t want people killing each other with folding knives that can be deployed quickly. Apparently they’d much rather you kill each other with fixed blade knives that can be used directly, and which isn’t covered by this new law.

There’s always ways around a law, but it is a hassle. In this instance I bet if you separate the blade from the handle and sent them separately, you’d be able to circumvent it. But still, probably 50/50 when it comes to the decision making process for customs agents if you get caught. - Oak



I swear to GOD this world is outta control with all these laws. The knife, the gun, the bat are inanimate objects. The evil is in the person. Ban cars and hammers while you’re at it.
Dann
Dann Thombs
Jan 14, 2019 3:39 PM
I'm seeing a lot more of these soft bans lately. Here in Mass, we have some of the most restrictive rules outside New York. Aside from the 1994 federal hard ban which was repealed for the rest of the country a while back, they've then opted to 'still allow' certain things, but prohibit the licensed sellers from dealing with them.

It's sort of an odd situation since typically the licensed dealers had many more rights, but what they've effectively done is cut off supply, and then everything downstream will dry up. You can still do person to person transactions, you can still own certain things privately, but you can't get a new or transferred one. And due to out of state sale laws, everything has to pass through a dealer, which then catches on that same restriction. Essentially whatever is in the state constitutes the entire supply of what will ever be.

And the items in question aren't exotic and overtly dangerous things, but rather ordinary ones limited to two specific requirements: a manufacturer certification (mainly includes a drop test and some other things), and it has to be on the AG's approved list. For the former, many manufactures can't be bothered to certify and test everything they make to satisfy one state's strict requirements, and the latter is just a random list chosen by someone who pretty much just re-elected based on party affiliation.

But all the while 'nothing' is banned, so there's nothing to object to. I took a safety class over the summer, but didn't bother with the next steps since it just seemed insulting the hoops to jump through after that point. My goal is to move in some time to a better state and they can loose my tax money.

In regards to knives, I forget what the limitations on those are. I know 4" blades are a common no-no, so I measured the one I have, and yep exactly 3.9". I read up one some of the state bylaws and there didn't seem to be anything explicitly banned 'how' it opens, but I know that one-handed operation can be used to lump autos, balisongs, spring assisted, etc... all together. I think movies have too much of an influence, like greasers are roaming the streets flicking out stiletto knifes, or pop out a butterfly knife and impress you with some aerial tricks before attacking.
oogie
paul mcj
Jan 14, 2019 8:03 PM
I recalled a number of threads on the Canada knife ban topic from the Spyderco forums. Oak's rant reminded me of the topic, so I went searching those old threads from Spyderco to see if there was any resolution or best practices to successfully get a knife you may want. Unfortunately, it doesn't really seem to have any official solution in place - just the random risk of being seized/refused.

As if the universe wants us to open Amazon packages with our bare hands?!?
Dann
Dann Thombs
Jan 14, 2019 8:49 PM
I just tornado kick them open. Like a man!
JP
John Schafhauser
Jan 16, 2019 8:15 PM
https://youtu.be/tyFyn_xnzKo

htrap_2294
Parth Kapur
Jan 20, 2019 11:38 PM
I’m gonna go on a rant. Bear with me....

Fucking Canadian laws. As of 2018, most pocket knives can’t be imported into Canada unless you have some kinda business license (like ones for firearms). Not restricted to carry within Canada itself, but restricted to import or carry into the country.

The idea is you can’t import knives that can flick open or can easily be opened by one hand. Basically centrifugal knives and assisted/automatic opening knives. Ok, fine. But apparently Canada Customs/Border Patrol can seize any folding knife as long as it can flick open, even if having been manually opened halfway or 2/3s. How crazy is that? The law is so vague that the above could include basically every folding knives!

The basic section that allows the seizure:

2. In accordance with subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code and the CITT’s recent decision in T. LaPlante, the CBSA resolves that centrifugal knives will be classified as prohibited weapons if the following conditions are met:
a. a knife has a blade that opens by centrifugal force, when the blade is released from the handle into the fully ejected and locked position with a simple and brisk outwardly flick of the wrist; and
b. it includes knives that require some preliminary or simultaneous minimal manipulation of either a flipper or other non-edged parts of the blade.

Asked to clarify the rule and the answer basically supports the virtual ban of folding knives:

Asked to expand on the CITT decision of the definition of knives that open with centrifugal force, CBSA Senior Communications Advisor Barre Campbell said, “This means any folding knife is not permitted for import into Canada where the blade can be extracted and locked into place with centrifugal force when, prior to use of centrifugal force, an item on the blade — such as a stud, disc, or flipper — or a hollowing in the blade is used to partially open the blade.” - Oak


That blade came up for sale again today.


Oak
Twenty Fifty
Jan 20, 2019 11:40 PM
Yep, sure did. Congrats to the buyer for the great pickup.
supersharp
Bobby
Feb 8, 2019 3:54 AM
Just in today. UTX-70




Oak
Twenty Fifty
Feb 12, 2019 4:31 PM
I'm sure Freesh won't mind me posting a pic of the below knife, since he's no longer with Oakley. The below pocket knife was given to him by Oakley in 2010/2011 for his work with the company:



There are other knives given as recognition through the years. I know there is at least a matte gold bowie knife given to recognize years of service with Oakley.
supersharp
Bobby
Feb 21, 2019 4:54 AM






A couple of quick pics of the latest. Will get some better ones later.
Benchmade Gold class morpho 51-161. #30/100
HED4JC
Kenny "HED" Wu
Feb 21, 2019 4:56 AM
Now that is a beautiful balisong
6/10

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