Saying that you're not considering the pics I've posted. Don't you believe they are the re issued rubys??

I seriously doubt that they're going to have serials. If you missed the boat the first time, too bad. Also, that Penny description been there since 2001.

Diego, I believe that the one u got is probably the re-issued batch but then they could be different than the batch which is going to be released shortly in US. Its a possibility and I think most people who ordered their pairs want to believe that is the case :)

And to be honest, I'm still hating myself right now for not buying the Ruuby Penny with serial 2k range last month in an O store (-_-)

man i hate you too for that. ;) j/k my bruneian bro

Quite frankly, (SHOCKER) I really like the penny, the frame design fits me alot better than the juliet, and the more extreme design looks better... however, the juliet is still my favorite because of black hawk down, the fact that it was my holy grail for a looong time, and teh fact that it is just plain cool... in my opinon its the spring hinges that are the deciding factor.

Zik, all ruby lens made for the new frames will be about the same, they are all made in the same place, and then, they shipped them...

Justin makes good points. Well done. Meh, I figure Oakley will crash and burn one day. It happens to every company that moves away from what made them popular.

on the contrary, i believe Oakley will become a much bigger brand than ever. i don't know much about US market, but in indonesia right now? well, i spoke an oakley dealer refractionist(optic store) yesterday, she told me that nowadays ppl are always looking for Oakleys Rx or sunglasses, that kind of thing doesn't happen everyday in the past(namely this time last year).

despite the fakes flooding the market, the brand awareness has grew like ten-folds compared to last year. seriously. i've posted somewhere that nowadays, 6 out of 10 ppl with rx glasses on the street has oakley rx on them, whether it's fake or not.this is only in context of the oakley public brand awareness, oakley's revenue or profit taking a hit by those fakes is another subject.

one thing i know for sure, it's strange to say this, but fakers/duplicators/replicators always has good eyes on which products to fake. those products are always the high-end type which ppl desire most, i don't need to mention other products(bags, watches, etc2), but for high end rx glasses = oakleys, mont blanc, tag heuer, and maybe more that i'm unaware of. thing is, u don't see ni@! rx glasses being faked, u dont' see arma@# glasses being faked(not that i'm aware of). well, the amazing thing is, oakley sunglass aren't only being faked but being copied too by lesser sunglasses brands!!! i remember a local spex symbol sunglass store selling some kind of lesser branded glasses(can't remember the name) which blantanly copied oakley splice design down to the red lenses(ruby) which original splice never has. it came with just enough little differences(prolly to avoid being sued) and being sold much cheaper than original splice(was around USD 40), this kind of thing generally happens with only truly high end most desirable wristwatches. it's not only being faked but being copied too by lesser brand! i only recently found this out, stumbling upon a copied version of rolex submariner by other unheard of- brands. those are nice alternative if one can't afford an SS submariner, which has a 4k price tag. for comparison, oakleys products aren't that un-affordable but they're being faked and being copied everywhere. that alone shows how big the brand is growing now, and all that only out of Oakley's cool designs on each of their product. :D

so, based on all that, it's fair to say even with the more mainstreamed design, oakleys is becoming one of the most desired products out there in the market. by that alone i don't think oakley will ever crash and burn. if it's anything, yes they might become a diversified company such as N@!# with more and more generally mainstream designed product vs. purist industrial stuff being offered by them. but no, they'll not crash and go out of business just becos they give more attention to the general audience than the loyal purist(us? :D). the fact is, i don't care for how many mainstreamed Oakley products are being released, just as long as Oakley keep making cool stuffs(with industrial/space out of this world designs) every once in a while(understanably cool designs always take good amount of time in process), then i'm loyal to O. can't wait how the new xmetal turns out to be.

note to oakley marketing dept/division, i said this before and i'll repeat it again: oakley should invest and supply their dealers with O-dvds for a display, namely the lens tests videos, imagine: a college girl shopping for sunglass in a optic store which is also an OPD(carries oakley), originally has eyes on Guc@# brand, sees oakleys' demo vids by accident, sees oakley Dart(the new women's line sunglasses), ask OPD store assistant if Dart can perform like those in vids, got confirmed, purchase done, girl happily goes home with new oakley glasses, show them off(maybe for the price) and tell friends/family about how it can perform and how good the lenses are, mention the videos for proof, friends/family got sold, go to store to check it out, repeat process. no media advertising needed!

They can do red. It's a question of whether they can be bothered to.

Nathaniel, theres like more then 50000 Ruby Penny/juliets out there, some are more red then others, I am sure you can be satisfied with those.

Don't you have a pair.

Well I would urge you to check Ebay then, there always pairs of Ruby, deep red that end up for less then 300$ it happened to a lot of members I know, just have to be patient and all.

Anyone have any idea when the O Stores will start to stock the Ruby Juliets?

I'm starting to wonder about Oakley's motivation for continuing to implement the current method of making the Ruby lens. On one hand I think, (to touch on Justin's point about image) why would they continue to use this combination of colors & materials knowing they will have, seemingly, no control of the outcome? On the other hand, maybe they like the fact that each batch comes out a little different. That way they can sell the same lens but appeal to a larger audience. If that's the case though, why would they use the X Men glasses as the inspiration when they are so obviously not the same color? The world may never know.

That's whay I was thinking. Why market it with X-Men when the colors are really off? They might as well use a fire lens.

lol

poor horse lol

According to you the Boston Tea party should have never happened, right 300orbust? Quit complaining about the high taxes you would have told everyone, it's played out.

Well, if you consider taxation without representation and the redness of sunglass lenses to be on the same level, then yeah, I guess so...

Maybe you can all throw your Juliets into the ocean...

I wasn't being serious either bro, it's all in fun. The horse stays though, lol.

Maybe you can all throw your Juliets into the ocean...

Good thing im a scuba diver too!

hehehehe

i agree what tick said, the whole point about marketing something that is not reproducable

making something for a movie, then turning around and selling "the same" product and it is not like the previous, kinda like rodmans .3p's

but we cant talk yet, the pennys have not even shipped yet, so we cant talk about bla bla bla red this, ruby that, orange yellow purple *cries*, i want super red lenses, bla bla bla,,, it seems like 80% of all the threads here now are people complaining about ruby lenses not being red enough.

80% of all the threads here now are people complaining about ruby lenses not being red enough.

80% of hardcore Oakley fans can't be wrong.

He did'nt say 80% of hard core fans were wrong.. he wanted to say that Oakley is much more than a color hue in lenses...
And the topics would be more usefull if they talked about something nore interessant than what ruby color you prefer.

Oakley isn't ruby lenses. It's a almost a religion! Forget about these "little" things ;)

Diego, the Ruby debate and debacle will just never end.

I know, but I couldn't be quiet...
I just wanted to say my opinion.. =D

And then we can continue the bla bla bla~~ again :)

Shall we say that the Ruby equine is well and truly deceased?