I'm with you guys there. If it's done correctly, the annuals each year can then be used to expand the original book - ie in the same style, organised in a similar (albeit very much smaller) way.
a coordinator
a decision on:
content
format
layout etceteras
people to write pieces/do design work
someone to compile it
people researching publishing options, costing etc
As mentioned above we really need one person to be responsible for this. I reckon due to the geographical spread of the contributors and varying ideas/notions and what not this could descend into a hellish mess in an instant.
Who will have final say so on layout, wording.
Before we do anything else I would suggest we need to find this person.
Anyone agree?
Perhaps we should start a list showing what everyone can contribute?
name in one column,
then set up additional columns where they can list: talents, contacts, connections, available hardware and anything else they can contribute to the book.
This would make it a lot easier to coordiante the people involved.
I agree with all of your points William, though I think design etc could be a second stage once we have some stuff written and sections organised.
It's going to be quite a task getting everyone matched with particular areas. I'd suggest we have one member 'editing' the book as a whole, then for each chapter/section, we have a member who co-ordinates each one and gets bits written from other members who put their name down for that particular area.
Then we would have a member working on the desktop publishing and other members who are willing to look at the printing, as you said.
It'd be good to get a good idea of people's particular specialties or bits they really want to work on, so it would be good to have somewhere to put all that information.
In terms of my own stuff, footwear and apparel are my main areas of expertise.
As I said before, I'm happy to do pretty much anything, and I am happy to put my name down as a co-ordinator/editor.
I'm going to want to throw in a design/layout idea here myself so perhaps this weekend I'll pull something together for us as well. I'll also have to read through this entire thread yet. But thing to keep in mind is size. This doesn;t need to be a conventional size, 8.5 x 11. We can go smaller at 6' x 9" or even horizontal at 9" x 6". More manual sized. Handheld on par with newer graphic novels. All white backs are good but won't save any money in printing if we agree to go 4 color anyway. We might as well throw in some splashes here and there. But yeah, I like all the ideas and I'll read throught his all later and see what I can get together. Maybe I'll test the new 8mp camera from work on a few glasss this weekend too.
Good ideas. Certain people could be in charge of layouts. We could have one main template or style, and can then be slightly tweaked per model if needed. Other people supplying the copy and info wouldn't have to worry about that aspect. We'll need graphic artists for some original artwork, and image cleanup (removing backgrounds etc...) and people experienced with putting it all together. I could be the master organizer, but we'll need to determine how we can tie everything together. Maybe a quick photoshop representation of how the page layout will look and then copies of the layers, and I can recreate it using InDesign or whatever anyone things would be best. Phil mentioned Quark, but I've never used that, nor do I have a copy. I suppose once we start finalizing page, we can post a JPG copy here and have a yay or nay vote to see if it passes or needs revisions. So here are my ideas for jobs:
Dann, that sounds like a neat list of jobs there, I think everything should get covered in that.
Co-ordination of DTP packages would be useful for ease of uniformity. I only have Publisher and I'm guessing that may well not be powerful enough for the stuff we want to achieve. I was quite good at it in my day though. Perhaps if we could come up with one package for all the DTP people to use, those who didn't have it could always buy a copy from Mr Warez.
i can provide pictures of almost every style in various colors , i have an 8 m pixelcamera , so if you want me to , i will take pics of whatever you want me to make
Layout contributers don't need to have a powerful package, just the person who puts the final package together. Contributers can submit layout mockups or design ideas, which can then be worked into the final display. They would then submit the pieces to build the final layout like this:
chat could help, but we'd have to be good about recording any good points back here.
I don't think we can use the descriptions by oakley. Plus this is a book by fans, so there should be fan descriptions. Terms like liquid shrapnel are fun and all, but don't really describe what the pair is.
Also, we probably shouldn't be showing our cabinets. Sad as it is to leave those out. Opinions on that?
I agree with a larger hardback book....when I think of "coffee table books" i think of hardback books with large colorful pics and relevant but somewhat minimalistic dialogue in big print....
I know I've read phrases in books before about them being "unauthorised" and "un-official" so it may be as easy as a disclaimer issue.....
I'd like to contribute to the writing dept. I tend to have a knack for putting things into a very readable text. I'd like to see the sentences have a nice flow with very little repetition. Also, It would be cool to have a hard cover that was printed bu could also be inserted into an aluminum Vault style box/cover that, when opened, would open up the book also. These are all good ideas I'm reading & I'm very excited about this project.
Dann, you are right about using displays ; don't use them.
but perhaps it is possible to add a chapter discribing the marketing-tools such as displays etc. what you can use ( i think ) is a picture of an oakley corner in a shop , if you want to , i can provide these pics
Another thing that comes to mind - that I would be willing to take on is approaching some publishing companies once we have a basic outline....additionally, if we had several people doing that in different parts of the country, it could increase our chances exponentially....
The worst they could say is no...no big deal....but potentially we could secure some financial backing here, and perhaps some guidance if we could generate the right interest... Who can sell the Oakley vision better than us?
I mean, we have basically generated our own sub-culture here.... I think the fanaticism alone is a strong selling point....and worth a read.
Sounds good. If they don't bite on the outline or rough draft, we could always make a few limited editions for ourselves and see if they accept at that point based on the final product. Then we'd all have valuable limited editions that would be highly sought after.
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