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Salazabr
Brian Salazar
Feb 2, 2007 11:08 AM
Damn, that really sucks about both things.
wundrdog1
Derron Tanner
Feb 2, 2007 5:26 PM
That's ok because I found another pair to replace them at a good price.
ball5out
Chester The X Metalist
Feb 5, 2007 6:11 AM
now this thread got me thinking again. Im currently wearing my pearl white mag switch and hella looking for ways to remove and replace lense with a +red. im gonna sit and stare at it for 30 minutes or so to see if any ideas come to me lol! :-) Will let u folks know if anything good pops up. Oh yeah by the way, How on earth did Oakley put the lens in when they were manufacturing this model? Did they build a frame around the lenses hahah. Silly question maybe but I really have no idea
wundrdog1
Derron Tanner
Feb 5, 2007 9:37 AM
You can pop them in from the backside because the lenses flex, but because the way the frame is designed, it is near impossible to pop them out the way they went in because the lens doesn't flex in that direction as easily. Because of the base curve of the lens.
DrChop
www.drchop shop.com
Feb 5, 2007 9:54 AM
I would be very careful "bending" them to fit in...May cause the hazing, or spider web lines through the lens because of the stress, and may cause a reaction with the Iridium coating...Might make it crack loose. If it works, I would love to see them since the switch is one of the best fitting frames I have worn, and being the custom guy I am, I would love a custom pair..Good luck out there...keep us all posted.
ronmen
Ron Kanditt
Apr 25, 2007 6:02 PM
hey members..
it is more than love to my to pairs, of oakley mag switch's..
one idea: if you want to custom you switch, but it isn't possible to get the lenses out of the frame, without destroying the frame, there is ony one (bad) choice..customers should destroy the lenses...so you have got a whole frame without lenses (?) first step
second..
"Frogskins" said:
You can pop them in from the backside because the lenses flex, but because the way the frame is designed, it is near impossible to pop them out the way they went in because the lens doesn't flex in that direction as easily. Because of the base curve of the lens.

and he has got also a digital copy of the lenses so a pattern to cut the custom lenses..
now: lenses has finished and you've got a frame without them..it's near the production..
"You can pop them in from the backside because the lenses flex"..with the frame and the "flex-feature" of the lenses (if you use the backside of the frame to put in) there should be no problems..(?)
good luck..
magnesium for ever
and i hope you're able to understand my post because ia am from germany ;)
greetings ronmen
rolyatnerrad
Darren Taylor
Apr 25, 2007 9:15 PM
where there's a will, there's a way, how about using a dremel to file the inside once the old lenses are out, and use loctite to hold the new lenses in, if only a bit was filed away, the lenses would pop in and out easily enough., you wouldn't notice the damage on the inside, and the outside would be looking customtastic...
O-AFX
Archer O
Apr 26, 2007 9:19 PM
I know this is probably obvious, but has anyone tried pushing the lens from the inside out to through the front? The lens has flex when pushed with the curve then force against it. Some lenses have to be pushed through to get them out. These look similar to the valves and the valves work better in this manner. Scars can be installed and removed in the same way. They can also be installed from the front, but who wants to take a chance with the finsh. All the best to you on this project.
DrChop
www.drchop shop.com
Apr 26, 2007 9:22 PM
th problem would be spider webbing or cracking of the iridium...they will splinter real bad I would imagine from the stress. My Violet Pups did very mildly from the stress of the bend. Plus, putting in the new ones would probably trash the edges, but that is just a thought...
O-AFX
Archer O
Apr 26, 2007 9:27 PM
LOL!!! Hey Ron I think we are on the same page here. I remove lenses all the time. I just haven't tried a switch yet. I am getting my first pair in a month or so... I will let you know If I have success. In the meantime kudos to Ron, I think he has it right....Unforntunately english is my first and only language, so I didn't get it right away. Now if you excuse me, I have to go finish eating the rest of my foot.
Ollie18
Ollie S.
Apr 26, 2007 9:40 PM
I will provide some feedback once I get my project in:
O-AFX
Archer O
Apr 26, 2007 9:45 PM
Yeah Josh, I think that is why people at oakley have trouble with these. The frames are not flexible like the valve or the scar, but I think overall this is still the only point of attack. Start the pressure at the top of the frame (at the widest point) so you get the most flex. As you you push out, push down at the same time. I think it might work, but I am sure it will make your thumbs throb. If this doesn't work, you can at least check you pulse after words. I remember when I did my first unknown lens change....OOOOOOOuch. I thought for sure the lens would be crap afterwords, but they are perfect. All This before I learned how to finally install them correctly. Of course I found this out on a lens I wasn't afraid of losing. But since then, I have a greater appreciation of the strength of the oakley lens. It makes you mad with science.
Nemesis
Gary Brown
Apr 26, 2007 10:07 PM
Ollie, what are your plans for those 'bottom of the pool' Switchs? I hope you're not planning on changing them too much, I think they're great just the way they are!
Ollie18
Ollie S.
Apr 26, 2007 10:26 PM
We shall see...my first thing is screwing around with the stock lens as they are ruined anyways. Depending how bad the rust and corrosion is, I might raw the frame. If it is too bad I will leave it the way it is. I have a couple lenses I can cut up that I am not using anymore. So we shall see...
PennyMad
Penny Madness
Apr 26, 2007 10:42 PM
Good luck on your project Ollie! I'm looking forward to seeing what can be done with the "swimming pool" Mag Switch. Keep us informed......
Ollie18
Ollie S.
Apr 26, 2007 10:46 PM
The seller also said that the rubbers should be salvagable...if not, do you guys know if Oakley still has the rubbers for the switches?
wundrdog1
Derron Tanner
Apr 26, 2007 11:22 PM
I have a little template I just finished making that should help out if you happen to destroy your old switch lenses (which you probably will) when trying to remove them. If you save and print this at 100% it should be exactly right. I tried printing it on my computer and it was perfect. Just make sure the measurements I have given match your printout before using it to cut new lenses for your switch. I made this template from my old Ti/Ice Mag Switches (whose frames I broke and hacksawed to remove the lenses). Please let me know if you have any questions regarding this.


cpsswat
quinton dube
Apr 26, 2007 11:49 PM
to install the lenses in some RX glasses that are metal they heat the lenses in a warm glass bead bath and the frame expands. the expansion is not that much, just enough for the lens to snap in. and the heat is mot enough to melt or screw up the frames. so if you heat the frame with, say a heat gun so that you dont ruin the finish and then try to pop the lenses in then you might not have to flex them so much. as for getting then out i have seen this heat method used as well but it is very touchy. i dont know if this will help or not.
BrianJ1888
Brian Johnson
Apr 27, 2007 12:28 AM
I've never seen a frame warmer used for metal frames. Mainly because there aren't any frames that would benefit from it. Most are pretty bendy, or too thick to be molded. We do plastic frames with tight-fitting glass lenses all the time.
rolyatnerrad
Darren Taylor
Apr 27, 2007 12:54 AM
i saw those before i read the thread and was gonna buy em now! glad you got them though dude and not some dick. i'd leave them as they are and bang in some plus red lenses, grind the frames man to get the lenses out, they are beat up anyhow, so a couple of taps with a grinder won't look out of place

i'm gonna screw an x metal like that, i like the look. sulphuric acid anyone?

cheers....
cpsswat
quinton dube
Apr 27, 2007 1:28 AM
yah i supose that it is mostly for the plastic glasses but the pricapal is the same almost. if you heat metal it expands it is don lots in all kinds of industries, and the lenses might be just a little easer to put in.
O-AFX
Archer O
Apr 27, 2007 2:32 AM
Very good science right there. We have to make expansion joints for metal capping because metal reacts to temperture changes. Especially copper. Hell they will break at the seams over time if you don't allow for the growth and contraction reaction. Maybe letting it sit in the sun or very hot water will give it an even spread to remove the lens. But wow what agreat idea. Man you got to love the minds in this place.
DrChop
www.drchop shop.com
Apr 27, 2007 2:48 AM
I just noticed in the diagram that there are teeth on the bottom of the lenses. I thought there would be, and that if traced off an original lens, proves my theory correct. That is the key to the whole dilema..Once around them, they will slide in from the sides...That is evident when you look at them, they have the channels, and i would imagine they would be easy, but the thickness would pose a problem I bet. If I could get my hands on a pair of thrashers with lenses in tact like Ollie, I would figure it out quickly...

I did mess with a grindable pair at warranty one day, and they aren't metal on the outside, as a matter of fact, there was a small magnesium skeleton inside, and they were encased in the ceramic material...So heating them would be useless, and I doubt there will be much for issues in the way of corrosion either
O-AFX
Archer O
Apr 27, 2007 2:52 AM
All very good points. There is a way, it just won't be easy until we do it. I will try when i get a chance. I love puzzles...
O-Whores
Thread Killers
Apr 27, 2007 4:37 AM
I was actually considering buying that pair just to leave it as it is. It looks really cool, I think. Very post-apocolyptic.


~Yukio
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