Even so, nobody wants them. If they had the same price premium as a Fire or Ti lens, they'd sell better.The common consumer who's attracted to the premise of the lens (any photochromatic) thinks they'll be dark while in a vehicle. It always comes up when you're selling to them. It's usually the reason it comes back. You can always see the disappointment on the faces of those in search of Serengetis when you tell them they won't be dark in a vehicle.