Anyone else watch this? I subscribe to Entertainment Weekly so I'd always read about it but being in Aus didn't get a chance to see what the hype was all about.

Finally its beeing shown on pay tv in Aus. GREAT SHOW! Its hilarious, and the girls in it are sexy.

May I suggest if you get the chance watch this show.

I always watch it - it's a pretty good show....HBO rocks on most of their "series" shows.... If you get a chance, check out Deadwood and Rome - both are linquistically brilliant.

Oh don't get me started about Rome. The sets and the costuming are near perfect. Finally a toga on tv that is halfway correct!

But how the hell can Cicero be younger than Pompeius? And why isn't Cicero fallen from favor, given the trial of Catalina, which happens before the show? Why is Cato old when he was young in this time period? Why does Caesar have brown hair? Why does Atia act like Servilia actually did? Why is Octavianus being called Octavianus? Does their consultant not speak Latin??

And why do they say "Of the Julii" When the names would imply that? And not only that, they pronounce it wrong...

And why oh why is there only one tribune of the plebs? Umm, that's just stupid.

Kudos for raising the bar on these Roman epics, but shame on them for getting it so wrong when they were so close to being right. If you want to get into something much much much much much much better, the read Colleen McCullough's Masters of Rome series.

Like her, they probably should have started the story where it actually begins, and that's with Gaius Marius and Lucius Cornelius Sulla.

& one thing I've always wondered, did Brutus start picking on Popeye before or after killing Caesar?

Popeye didn't start dating Olive Oil until after Ceaser died - which is when Brutus started picking on him so....definitely after....

The more serious answer: :p

Brutus was Servilia's son, and heir of the gold of Tolosa, if you believe the story about Servilia's father, Servilius Caepio. I happen to believe that story, which would in fact make Brutus richer than Crassus.

Colleen McCullough puts Brutus in love with Julia (the one who died at the beginning of the Rome series, Pompeius's wife), and heartbroken that Caesar married her off to him instead... and more devestated that it was a love match.

That is just as likely to be right as it is wrong, but what's also true is that Cato is Servilia's half-brother, whom she of course despises, her a patrician Servilius, and him descended from a celtiberian slave. Cato is more or less the mouthpeice of the poltical faction known as the boni, ultra-conservative, and oppossed to all things Caesar. Cato bullies Pompeius into war, as I think that's shown in the series as well. Keep in mind that this Cato would have been younger, fresh into the senate in his mid-thirties.

I think it's just as likely that Cato got to Brutus. After all, it was a Brutus who killed the last king of Rome. Whether or not Caesar gave him a shove by taking away his girlfriend, who knows?

Yup, these real stories have everything, no need to change them around like they do on tv.

As for looks, the two closest in looks on the show would be Pompeius and Cicero...even if the timeframes are wrong. Cicero did have those huge ears, and Pompeius was a bit out of shape by this time as well. Caesar by all accounts had blond hair and blue eyes, and a properly Roman nose. His hair would also have been receding at this point, which he used the civic crown he won in battle to cover the receding hairline. Why? The irony of having a cognomen that means "a fine head of hair."

Cato had reddish hair and a huge honking nose, so yeah, Cato and Caesar don't match at all.

It's all in the history books, just waiting for their consultant to actually read. :p

And where is Bibulus?? I only watched the first two episodes before turning away in disgust. Please tell me that Bibulus appears sometime?

I completley agree, Entourage is an awesome show.

Er, Rome, I mean.

bibilus was at lakeside , playning darts

LOL, I'm a natural born history buff, so it naturally lent itself to Roman history when I took Latin in HS. It reads like a melodramatic soap opera but that's what makes it so easy to remember... and so fun.

In the Rome series, Caesar is also off playing darts at Lakeside.

yep , and guess what , jelle klaassen beat him too

Well Caesar paused to write some haughty commentaries to the senate.

"All of the dartboard is divided into three parts..."

(Umm, that joke may have just shown how much of a nerd I really am!)

i don't get the joke...

It's a play on the first line of Caesar's Commentaries. We had to actually memorize it in Latin class. "All of Gaul is divided into 3 parts..." I know a lot of people had to memorize this back in the day.

Dumb it down Kim. We're sunglass dudes. (Especially Fred)

quid pro quo

or something like that


asterix & obelix were living there , in Gaul

Hehe, "Gaulia est omnes divisa in partes tres.." Rick, that's officially all the Latin I remember, and I don't even know if that's right. I'm not that smart, just a history nerd. :)

If anyone here besides me watches this, in the last episode, their was at least one time tank (MM!!) shown, worn by.....? Buler...anyone...Buler...?

Turtle was wearing a pair of Ducati crosshairs as well.

Ah, nice old thread back from the depths. Nice chance to polish up on my Latin thanks to Plainsong!
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HAHAHA What you said just made me laugh so hard man ! Oh the memories, I might go to Subway and send you some pictures afterward ;p

and spend hours to get that perfect girly girly haircut.

Yeah Rick, I bet you were polishing up something[u/] thinking about Plainsong! By the way I believe "song" translates to "annoying" in Finnish