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The P.W. Club ( A.K.A. - Oakley Selfies )
Freeman Transport Jawbone - Help needed.
David Flores Gascan
Feb 24, 2018 8:56 AM
Feb 21, 2018 4:40 PM
I don't collect Frogskins, but a guy who is probably well known to a lot of you, Ashley (Romeovanfrogstein) is selling off his frogskin collection.
Admin, delete if you think this is inappropriately placed. Just trying to help some of you hardcore Frogskin collectors
Just thought I'd share this here in case some of you were interested. Can't seem to access the For Sale section. Contact him directly via email email@example.com.
The following is a list of genuine and authentic Oakley Frogskins which I have collected
since their introduction in 2007, and as far as possible have been cherry picked from
stockists to be mint unused with mint boxes. As I have retired from collecting (minus X
Metals), these are now available for sale. Glasses are mint, boxes mint without creases
or crumples with card boxes, and free from cracks and splits if plastic. Non release pairs
that were not issued with boxes have been provided with a mint non labelled black Frog
specific box. If the condition is below mint, this is stated in the listings. Prices are UK £'s,
and payable via paypal as a 'Friends and Family' / Gift payment to alleviate fees, or you
can add 5% to your order total to cover my paypal fees, by adding 5% you will be paying
for goods and services and this gives you paypal buyer protection.
Postage UK is £9.50 for 1 to 3 pairs, registered tracked and must be signed for. Europe
and overseas is £15 for 1 to 3 pairs sent tracked and signed. Larger orders I can invoice
you the total shipping cost. I can declare as a gift with a low value to alleviate your import
fees, let me know if you want a full value declared, if so you are responsible for your
customs charges. All track details will be messaged to your email the day I ship to you.
Payment should be made to my personal email address:- firstname.lastname@example.org. Glasses
are fairly priced, many at below retail cost set to just about recover my original spending,
but bear in mind many glasses are up to 11 years old and nearly impossible to find in true
mint condition, and especially with pristine boxes. All the Frogskins listed are complete as
released with paperwork and appropriate microbags. You are unlikely to ever find a collection
of this number being in such consistently perfect condition, so you have a great chance to
capture some awesome pieces for your collection. Any questions, please ask.
Ashley Ryan / Romeo Van Frogskinstein (email@example.com).
LIST OF FROGSKINS (3RD GEN) FOR SALE
£085.00 Abys - +Red 24-358 Aquatique
£070.00 Acid Black - Grey 24-253
£070.00 Acid Blue - Grey 24-250
£105.00 Acid Blue - +Red Polarized 24-356
£070.00 Acid Green - Grey 24-249
£070.00 Acid Orange - Grey 24-252
£105.00 Acid Pink - Fire Polarized 24-357 Sunglass Hut exclusive
£070.00 Acid Pink - Grey 24-251
£100.00 Acid Tortoise Black - Black Polarized 24-368 O Store exclusive
£080.00 Acid Tortoise Black - +Red 24-313
£080.00 Acid Tortoise Blue - Blue 24-309
£100.00 Acid Tortoise Green - Black Polarized 24-367 O Store exclusive
£080.00 Acid Tortoise Green - Emerald 24-310
£100.00 Acid Tortoise Orange - Black Polarized 24-370 O Store exclusive
£080.00 Acid Tortoise Orange - Fire 24-312
£100.00 Acid Tortoise Pink - Black Polarized 24-369 O Store exclusive
£080.00 Acid Tortoise Pink - Ruby 24-311
£110.00 Acid Tortoise Pink - Ruby 24-311 Texas Toast Jam (some lens marks)
£105.00 Acid Yellow - Ice Polarized 24-355 Sunglass Hut exclusive
£075.00 Alpine Bluebird - Sapphire OO9013-74 Snow Alpine Collection
£075.00 Alpine Glow - Pink OO9013-73 Snow Alpine Collection
£075.00 Alpine Storm - Chrome OO9013-72 Snow Alpine Collection
£075.00 Artesian Blue - Black 24-389
£075.00 Artesian Blue - Blue 24-345 Summit
£075.00 Aspen Green - Black 24-390
£080.00 Aspen Green - Emerald 24-341 Summit
£080.00 Basin Red - Pink 24-342 Summit
£130.00 Black - Black 24-393 Rag & Bone
£100.00 Black - Fire 24-418 Heritage
£095.00 Black - Jade 24-396 Soft Touch
£300.00 Black Clear Fade - Grey 24-279 Oki-Ni
£105.00 Black Decay - Dark Grey 24-413 Fall Out Collection
£110.00 Black Ink - Chrome Polarized OO9013-10 Ink Collection
£110.00 Black Ink - Jade Polarized OO9013-11 Ink Collection
£110.00 Black Ink - Violet Polarized OO9013-09 Ink Collection
£075.00 Blacklight Black - +Red 24-288
£075.00 Blacklight Blue/Orange - Fire 24-285
£125.00 Blacklight Blue/Orange - Ice Polarized 24-354 Sunglass Hut exclusive
£125.00 Blacklight Green/Black - Black Polarized 24-352 Sunglass Hut exclusive
£075.00 Blacklight Green/Black - Grey 24-286
£125.00 Blacklight Orange/Pink - Fire Polarized 24-351 Sunglass Hut exclusive
£075.00 Blacklight Orange/Pink - Pink 24-284
£075.00 Blacklight Pink/Yellow - 24K 24-287
£125.00 Blacklight Pink/Yellow - +Red Polarized 24-353 Sunglass Hut exclusive
£075.00 Blacklight Yellow/Blue - Blue 24-289
£170.00 Black Tortoise - OO Black Polarized. OCP, rare lens unique to OCP
£080.00 Blue - Sapphire OO9013-44 Surf Collection
£350.00 Blue/Black - Grey 24-264 BKRW
£175.00 Blue Chrome-Palm Trees - Sapphire. Colette/Julien David
£115.00 Bronze Decay - Ruby 24-414 Fall Out Collection
£230.00 Brown Smoke Tortoise - Clear 24-386 B & Y
£170.00 Brown Tortoise - 24K Polarized. OCP lens unique to OCP
£085.00 Brown Tortoise - Dark Bronze 24-317 Eric Koston
£135.00 Camo - Ruby 24-397 Soft Touch
£135.00 Carbon - +Red 24-399 Soft Touch
£085.00 Carbon - Violet 24-348 Infinite Hero
£180.00 CD Surf - Prizm Daily Polarized OO9013-84 Apocalypse Surf Collection S.I.
£165.00 Charcoal - 24K. Mash
£080.00 Clear Camo - Emerald 24-436 Eric Koston
£090.00 Coast - Emerald 24-360 Aquatique
£080.00 Crystal Black - Emerald 03-291
£220.00 Crystal Black - Grey. FairEnds
£080.00 Crystal Black - Ice 03-292
£225.00 Crystal Black - +Red 03-289 Corona, lens etched, only known pair?
£075.00 Crystal Black - +Red 24-304
£170.00 Crystal Black - Ruby 24-244 Surf Drive n Ski/Jetty Surf
£080.00 Crystal Black - Violet 03-290
£170.00 Crystal Blue - Grey 24-243 Surf Drive n Ski/Jetty Surf
£070.00 Crystal Clear - 24K OO9013-A4
£068.40 Crystal Clear - Jade OO9013-A3
£070.00 Crystal Clear - Sapphire OO9013-A6
£070.00 Crystal Clear - Torch OO9013-A5
£130.00 Crystal Orange - Fire. OCP
£130.00 Crystal Red - Ruby. OCP
£130.00 Crystal Purple - Violet. OCP
£245.00 Dark Amber - Emerald 24-387 B & Y
£100.00 Dark Grey - Fire Polarized OO9013-31 Toxic Blast Collection
£250.00 Dark Grey - Fire Polarized OO9013-31 Toxic Blast Collection/Back Channel
£070.00 Dark Grey - Jade OO9013-32 Toxic Blast Collection
£070.00 Dark Grey - Violet OO9013-33 Toxic Blast Collection
£335.00 Distressed Black/Pink - Grey. Eric Koston
£090.00 Drop Off - Blue 24-362 Aquatique
£080.00 Fingerprint Atomic Orange - Fire OO9013-53 Fingerprint Collection
£080.00 Fingerprint Dark Grey - Warm Grey OO9013-56 Fingerprint Collection
£080.00 Fingerprint Polished White - Black OO9013-52 Fingerprint Collection
£080.00 Fingerprint Retina Burn - Jade OO9013-54 Fingerprint Collection
£080.00 Fingerprint Sky Blue - Sapphire OO9013-55 Fingerprint Collection
£155.00 Glow In The Dark - Blue. Prototype, some light lens marks
£300.00 Gold - Gold. Brazil conference/internal competition
£085.00 Grenade Fade - Black 24-240 Grenade
£350.00 Grey/Black - Grey 24-265 BKRW
£080.00 Grey Ink - Black OO9013-05 Ink Collection
£070.00 Gunpowder - Dark Grey OO9013-75 High Grade Collection
£100.00 Heritage Red - Fire OO9013-34 Heritage
£090.00 Hot Spot - Fire 24-359 Aquatique
£100.00 Kazu Brown Tortoise - Bronze 24-336 Kazuhiro Kokubo
£090.00 Lagoon - Fire 24-361 Aquatique
£070.00 Lead - Black. Metal Collection
£195.00 Light Brown - Bronze Polarized. High Grade prototype, unreleased frame colour
£340.00 Light Green Tortoise. Prototype, the only pair that exists, 1 of 1.
£090.00 Marine Fade - Blue 24-237
£075.00 Matte Black - Black 24-335 GP 75
£080.00 Matte Black - Black OO9013-46 B1B Collection
£080.00 Matte Black - Black OO9013-50 Covert Collection
£110.00 Matte Black - Black Polarized 24-297
£180.00 Matte Black - Black Polarized 24-407 Hawaii
£075.00 Matte Black - Chrome OO9013-78 Machinist Collection
£075.00 Matte Black - Dark Grey 24-401 Alpha Decay
£110.00 Matte Black - Emerald Polarized 24-404
£085.00 Matte Black - Fire 24-323 Hell
£330.00 Matte Black - Grey Polarized 24-380 Mastermind
£085.00 Matte Black - Ice 24-324 Heaven
£110.00 Matte Black - Ice Polarized 24-403
£110.00 Matte Black - Ruby Polarized 24-402
£085.00 Matte Black - Violet 24-298
£150.00 Matte Black - Warm Grey OO9013-66 American Heritage S.I.
£075.00 Matte Black Camo - Dark Grey 24-437 Eric Koston
£085.00 Matte Black/Matte White - Sapphire OO9013-94 Brazil Olympics Collection
£080.00 Matte Black Tortoise - Dark Grey 24-415 Fall Out Collection
£115.00 Matte Blue - Grey OO9013-95 MPH
£080.00 Matte Blue - Sapphire OO9013-47 B1B Collection
£090.00 Matte Blue Woodgrain - Torch OO9013-B555 Driftwood Collection
£090.00 Matte Brown Tortoise - Fire 24-416 Fall Out Collection
£225.00 Matte Brown Tortoise - Fire 24-416 Fall Out Collection/Chaleco Lopez
£085.00 Matte Carbon - Grey OO9013-96 MPH
£080.00 Matte Carbon Camo - Black 24-420 Infinite Hero
£085.00 Matte Carbon Camo - Violet OO9013-51 Infinite Hero
£080.00 Matte Clear - Chrome OO9013-70 Urban Jungle Collection
£100.00 Matte Clear - Violet 24-419 Heritage
£085.00 Matte Clear Woodgrain - Black. OO9013-B655 Driftwood Collection
£110.00 Matte Cloud - Black Polarized OO9013-13 Heaven and Earth Collection
£235.00 Matte Dark Grey - Black Polarized 24-388 Fragment/Buena Vista
£085.00 Matte Denim/Grey - Grey 03-218
£110.00 Matte Fern - Jade Polarized OO9013-14 Heaven and Earth Collection
£100.00 Matte Green Camo - Jade. OCP, frame unique to OCP
£075.00 Matte Grey - Sapphire OO9013-68 Urban Jungle Collection
£090.00 Matte Grey/Black Camo - Grey. OCP, frame unique to OCP
£085.00 Matte Grey/Purple - Violet 03-220
£070.00 Matte Moss - Dark Grey OO9013-12 Heaven and Earth Collection
£165.00 Matte Moss - Grey OO9013-90 James Dietz S.I.
£195.00 Matte Navy - Ice OO9013-02 Pilgrim Surf + Supply
£080.00 Matte Olive Ink - Jade OO9013-69 Urban Jungle Collection
£080.00 Matte Red - Fire OO9013-48 B1B Collection
£115.00 Matte Red - Fire OO9013-92 MPH
£070.00 Matte Red - Grey 03-147 (box has 'yellowed' over time, no splits/cracks)
£090.00 Matte Red Woodgrain - Sapphire OO9013-B755 Driftwood Collection
£080.00 Matte Sepia - 24K OO9013-67 Urban Jungle Collection
£080.00 Matte Sky - Sapphire OO9013-15 Heaven and Earth Collection
£080.00 Matte Tortoise - Prizm Tungsten OO9013-C555 Prizm
£175.00 Matte Tortoise-Palm Trees - Emerald. Colette/Julien David
£085.00 Matte Turquoise/White - Grey 03-217
£075.00 Matte White - Gold 03-209
£140.00 Matte White - Ice OO9013-88 Revert 95
£075.00 Mesa Orange - Black 24-391
£080.00 Mesa Orange - Fire 24-344 Summit
£155.00 Metallic Blue Green. Prototype, frame only, only known pair with fade colour
£120.00 Neon Green Fade - Prizm Daily Polarized OO9013-99 Green Fade Collection
£080.00 Nitrous - 24K OO9013-38 Moto Collection
£070.00 Ochre - Dark Grey OO9013-43 Surf Collection
£080.00 Octane - Fire OO9013-39 Moto Collection
£155.00 Old Glory - +Red 24-318
£070.00 Olive Ink - Warm Grey OO9013-04 Ink Collection
£080.00 Pike's Gold - Fire 24-343 Summit
£085.00 Polished Black - 24K 24-272 Shaun White
£350.00 Polished Black - Black 24-339 AAPE with XL T shirt in giant pack
£295.00 Polished Black - Black 16SSMMO-SU01-270 Mastermind
£325.00 Polished Black - Black Polarized 24-379 Mastermind
£070.00 Polished Black - Grey 03-118
£065.00 Polished Black - Grey 24-306
£100.00 Polished Black - Grey 24-306 Texas Toast Jam (some lens marks)
£240.00 Polished Black - Grey 24-306 VW lens etched, handful only exist
£100.00 Polished Black - Grey Polarized 03-223
£080.00 Polished Black - +Red 24-254 Jupiter Camo
£300.00 Polished Black - Violet 16SSMMO-SU01-170 Mastermind
£270.00 Polished Black Crystal Black Fade - Clear 24-260 Beams
£270.00 Polished Black Navy Fade - Yellow 24-259 Beams
£065.00 Polished Blue - Grey OO9013-A2 MPH
£100.00 Polished Blue - Ice OO9013-36 Heritage
£100.00 Polished Blue - Ice OO9013-98 MPH
£105.00 Polished Clear - Grey 24-338 Danny Kass
£095.00 Polished Moss - Dark Grey MPH
£055.00 Polished Rootbeer - Bronze 24-303
£100.00 Polished Rootbeer - Bronze Polarized 03-224
£170.00 Polished White - 24K 03-113 Supreme
£120.00 Polished White - Jade Iridium Polarized 24-364 Sunglass Hut exclusive
£085.00 Polished White - Ruby 03-252 O store exclusive
£060.00 Polished White - Ruby 24-307
£100.00 Polished White - Violet OO9013-35 Heritage
£080.00 Purple - +Red OO9013-45 Surf Collection
£500.00 Rootbeer - 24K. Original Fake, some minor lens marks, only known pair
£650.00 Rubberized Black/Red - Black. Allegedly Paul Smith Prototype, texture frame
£160.00 Rubberized Dalmation. Prototype, frame only
£180.00 Rubberized Pink - Pink 24-103 Paul Smith
£095.00 Seafoam - Grey 24-417 Heritage
£070.00 Sepia - Dark Grey OO9013-03 Ink Collection
£125.00 Skate Deck Matte Red - Grey 24-375 Craftsman
£140.00 Skulls - Blue 24-398 Soft Touch
£115.00 Smog Plaid - Grey 24-256
£175.00 Smog Raw - Grey. Unreleased Smog polished frame, only pair known
£110.00 Smog Text - Grey 24-258
£135.00 Smog Text - Grey 24-258 Kicks Lab non etched
£250.00 Smog Tortoise - Grey 24-257 BackChannel, lens etched, Japan exclusive
£070.00 Smoke - Grey OO9013-77 High Grade Collection
£080.00 Sulphur - Black 24-316 Deuce Coupe
£395.00 Surf Deck Blue - Ice 24-383 Craftsman, arm sku print, some lens marks
£070.00 Tobacco - Dark Bronze OO9013-76 High Grade Collection
£155.00 Union Jack - Ruby 24-314 O store exclusive
£290.00 Van Ness - Black 24-295 Van Ness Wu
£080.00 Vapour - Black OO9013-37 Moto Collection
£085.00 VR/46 Polished Black - Fire 24-325 Valentino Rossi
£085.00 White - +Red OO9013-85 Team USA
£250.00 White - Jade. Team USA, unreleased, arms/orbital same colour
£200.00 White - Violet 03-201 Greg Lutzka, Good Livin' Pack inc T shirt, Cap, Fedora
£170.00 White - Violet OO9013-07 Heritage, ultra rare 07 NIP sku, rare version of 35 sku
£160.00 White Camo - Fire 24-394 Rag & Bone
£460.00 White City - Black. Supreme Prototype, only known example with different frame
£110.00 Woodgrain - Prizm Daily Polarized OO9013-89
£205.00 Yellow - Jade Polarized. Prototype, only 3 known, arms with yellow dots
LIST DATE FEBRUARY 2018.
Feb 18, 2018 4:22 PM
Any reviews for either of these? I heard that the Mod 5 isn't as comfortable as the equivalent Giro.
Jan 13, 2018 2:07 PM
And another tower... - pastor.elfstrom
I notice you don't have doors on the shelving on the RHS. Don't you have any problems with dust on the lenses when you finally get round to wearing them?
Dec 20, 2017 11:39 AM
Thanks all you guys for the help!!
And have a great time with your families this Christmas!
Dec 19, 2017 2:24 PM
I think the lenses should be vr50 photochromic judging from the picture of the original.
I'm supposed to be getting them from Joseph Smith from the Lion Museum.
Apparently, he's double checking with Freeman Transport themselves. I assume when he bought them, he thought they were original too.
Dec 19, 2017 5:58 AM
Do any of you own or have seen a pair of genuine Freeman Transport Jawbones are these real or fake?
The colour of the frame is the same, but the bolt and icon colours look different.
, can you guys shed any light on this?
Picture from website in full sunlight
Dec 15, 2017 8:22 PM
Custom white cerakoted Juliets with matte blue Dillon lenses
Nov 14, 2017 7:28 PM
. Thanks!!! Hey bro, is there any way I can "follow" you. You're a fountain of Oakley knowledge!!!! Awesome!!!
P.S. Alternatively, you could just tag me for anything about Oakley, 'cos that wouldn't be a burden to you, right?!!! HA HA HA!! :)
Nov 14, 2017 5:08 PM
Jason, I think they only released one crystal frame in the JB. And the MI one I thought was a clear split jacket, because it had the wind jacket part.
Nov 14, 2017 11:14 AM
(or anyone else)
Does anyone know about the Gascan S David Flores?
ie. how many were produced, what they're worth etc?
Nov 13, 2017 9:27 PM
Nov 13, 2017 8:35 PM
Here's one with a slight variation in colour with the jaws.
Nov 13, 2017 3:48 PM
I always get confused with which models came with JB and which came with the RJs, but I think some of them are pretty cool, like the Juan Pelota, Rapha, 30th Anniversary, atmos, B1B etc.
Nov 13, 2017 3:33 PM
! Thanks for that. Very helpful!!
If I'm not mistaken, the JB was renamed anyhow due to copyright issues. Not sure why they didn't proceed.
Nov 13, 2017 2:26 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows anything about these?
Allegedly were unreleased.
Came with their own Deuce Coupe MF bag (which holds an extra pair of lenses) which is why I think that they may be genuine. The other versions of the Deuce Coupe didn't have the extra stitched pocket for 2 extra lenses like the jawbone/RJ MF bags (as far as I know).
Also, I can't tell if the yellow sulphur colour is the same as "lemon peel" jawbone here, or different (because I own neither pair)... http://o-review.com/database_detail_colorway.php?ID=6245&table_name=glasses
Nov 12, 2017 9:02 PM
Great work as usual!!
Are the graphics painted or are they decals?
Nov 2, 2017 2:01 AM
Man, that is insane!!!!
Nov 1, 2017 10:19 PM
Wow. Just wow. I'm not just talking about one of the posts. I'm talking about ALLLLLLLLLL of them!!!!!! O
could you explain what the models you displayed are?
And also what people have told you are the upper numbers produced.
Oct 31, 2017 10:01 PM
Here's a List I compiled thanks to numerous sources (of Non-Frogskins) from rarest to least rare:-
I know there are other threads about what people think are the rarest. I've created this new one because it has the alleged numbers and they are in order.
Super Sports Pro M Frame - Red with Black Rubber - Grey. Prototype unreleased model - 1 known pair
Hijinx Polished Art Chantry - 1 made
Blue Juliet - 1 OEM made (@Dyeraudio has one)
Green OTT (from first Raimi Spiderman movie) - 1 made
Jawbone - Sulphur Yellow/Orange - Ruby to G30 Photochromic Jawbone - 1 made. For Shade Station for the 2012 Olympics. Additionally rare as it is the only example of this unreleased lens (@romeovanfrogstein)
M Frame - 18K - Gold. Lance Armstrong. 2 pairs produced. In July 2007 a pair sold on auction for $19,200. As per @OakleyG, One is with Oakley and the other pair is held by an owner of a financial trading company located in northeast US.
Kozik (+red polarized) - 2 pairs made (Kozik has one)
New Straight Jacket Jet black pink flames 2 pairs (@GRFMotorsports)
New Straight Jacket Jet black with blue flames 2 Pairs (@GRFMotorsports)
Purple Juliet 3 pairs (@Dyeraudio has one)
Romeo 1 Copper/Black lenses. Factory produced, suggested quantity ranges from one to around 5 pairs.
C-Six Carbone Livestrong Tungsten Polarized - 5 numbered pairs. In July 2010 a pair sold on auction for $6,605.05
Straight Jackets Snow Camo/Black Iridium - 8-12 pairs (as per @Funky-Trixtar)
Rapha Jawbone 10 pairs*
Eastern Border Dispatch - 12 pairs (@mercbezerk)
Juliet Corvette Racing Team Edition (Ruby lens with Corvette etching) 20 pairs
Gascan White JPM 20 pairs (@GRFMotorsports)
Freeman Transport Jawbone 30 pairs - VR50 transition lens + black icons
Jawbone Fairends 30 pairs (Oakley Trival Pursuit - They have replaceable icons which means they should be called Racing Jackets! Thanks to @Nortika for the information)
M Frame Bobby Labonte 30 pairs (@GRFMotorsports)
oki-ni Exclusive Eyeshade 35 pairs
Juan Pelota Jawbones 50 pairs
Atmos Jawbones glows in the dark 50 pairs (50 also of Frogskins)
White Text Gascan with Grey lens 50 pairs
Gascans Boot Camp etched on lens - given to employees only 70 pairs
B1-B Jawbone 75 pairs
Mash Radar Path 90 pairs
New Straight Jacket Flying Mater 50-100 pairs (@GRFMotorsports is looking for these as of 15th May, 2017. Contact him if you have a pair for sale!)
Indy 500 Pit Boss 100 pairs
Thump 2 Blumentopf Edition 100 pairs
Stussy Hijinx Buffalo Soldier 100 pairs
David Flores Gascan Brown with orange icon or gunmetal icon 100 pairs
David Flores Gascan Blue around 100 pairs
Penny Carbon/+Red - 100 pairs
MotoGP Sliver XL + Spielberg etching - 100 pairs
Garage Rock Osheaga 100+ pairs (as per @Lexkempo here)
MotoGP Carbon Prime (100 pairs USA, 5 Australia) (@Oakleynerd/@jdd32)
Glow in the Dark Radar 100-150 pairs? (as per @Nortika here)
MotoGP Carbon Prime - 105 pairs (100 USA + 5 Australia)
Madman Raw 150 pairs
Staple RazorBlades - 150 pairs
Eyeshades (red/fire iridium) with clear box - 150 pairs (@Wavecloud)
Matt Kenseth Splices 200 pairs
Elite C-Six Carbon Fiber/Tungsten Iridium Polarized OO4047-02 Â£3450 original UK sale price - 250 made
Who is this kid Hijinx 300 pairs
Over The Top Blade II 300 pairs (apparently may be less in circulation due to recall as per @Romeo Van Frogskinstein here)
Murasaki Holbrooks 400 pairs
Gascan KTM 400 pairs
Juliet Brown 400 (1000?)pairs
London Police Pack - 500 boxed sets
Romeo 2.0 Gary Scelzi - 500 pairs
Jamiroquai Thumps 500 pairs $1000 - 2008
C100 Gascans 500 pairs 12-759
Thump 2 Pascha Edition 500 pairs
Juliet 24K 750 pairs
X-Squared 24K/Titanium Iridium Polarized 750 pairs
Infinite Hero Juliet Plasma/Violet Iridium 800 pairs*???
Juliet Finito Edition - 1000 pairs
Juliet Ichiro Carbon Polished - 1000 pairs
Canvas Fuel Cell 1000 pairs
Ichiro Radars 4 different combinations 1000 pairs
Ichiro Juliets different colors 1000 pairs
Shaun White Holbrook FMJ Gold/24K Polarized 1000 pairs $470
Holiday Oil Rigs frost blue w silver history text 1000 pairs
Holiday Oil Rigs matte clear 1000 pairs
Holiday Oil Rigs matte clear w black history text 1000 pairs
Rust Decay Fuel Cell 1000 pairs (allegedly)
Rust Decay Breadbox 1000 pairs (allegedly)
Elite C-Six Aluminum/Grey Polarized Â£1295 original UK retail price - 1500 numbered pairs
Troy Lee Fuel Cell (Love&Hate) 1500 pairs
Soviet Red Shift Gascans 3000 pairs 12-777
Soviet Red Shift Gascans 3000 pairs
Soviet Red Shift Hijinx 3000 pairs
Troy Lee Gascan 3000 pairs
Penny x-metal ruby lenses 5000 pairs
Romeo 1 Michael Jordan. Identified with a 4 digit serial number on the nose piece - 5000 pairs
First gen Juliet with Ruby with serials - 5000 pairs
Honourable Mentions (unknown quantities, but known to be rare):-
Romeo Jordan Rep Sales Sample in oversized aluminum vault
Romeo 1 w/ persimmon (2000 Olympics)
SAB Miller Hijinx
2015 Osheaga Sliver (3 x colour ways - polished black, matte black & sepia)
Oct 31, 2017 9:34 PM
Wondering if any of you can shed light on the 2 different versions of the Jawbone Echelon.
Apparently, they had the same SKU, but one was more polished than the other.
Does anyone have any information on this.....or pictures showing the differences?
Oct 30, 2017 12:24 AM
You've obviously thought about this a lot more than me. I find it a very interesting discussion!! Thanks.
The SLA resin models, etc would undoubtedly qualify as "prototypes" as it's clearer what they're precursors of.
It just gets fuzzy around the edges once the experimental ones are released by employees to the public. Some of them are in various stages of development ranging from half painted, to completed, but with a different finish or lens. I guess you could always label these as "experimental" or "unreleased versions".
Practically, it doesn't matter what they're called, as long as we are able to communicate exactly what we mean by the terms, which is what you are concerned about.
I'd still say that the Ferrari Carbon Prime was a "prototype" because it was a version that was being "tested" prior to being commercially released, even though it never reached production. As you point out in your other thread, one could just avoid defining "prototype" by labelling a "prototype" something which an Oakley employee labels!! Of course, then, it just defers to someone else to decide the definition. Once again, how you'd be able to determine that is extremely difficult.
You talk about prototypes being athlete models which were tested and later refined and adapted. But I assume that you wouldn't call Oil rig 1 a "prototype" even though it was superseded by the oil rig 2 or RJ Gen 1/2, Jawbone/New RJ. Most athlete only versions as I understand it, were different frame colouring and lens combinations. Some of the early R1 MJ models had squarer side arms than standard. But I wouldn't call them prototypes.
However, overall, it sounds like you'd draw the circle a bit smaller than me. I use the term more loosely than you.
Oct 29, 2017 11:12 PM
You raise a great point re: nomenclature.
The Cambridge dictionary defines "prototype" as, "the first example of something, such as a machine or other industrial product, from which all later forms are developed:"
1. It's the "first" of it's kind
2. It precedes the eventual product.
But I'd probably take a broader view for a number of reasons. Even if the "prototype" didn't make it into production, but was still made at the Oakley factory, I'd define as a "prototype" e.g. Ferrari Carbon Prime which was never released publicly. Samples were only made.
Also, it's problematic to try and define which actual chrome frogskin was the "first" of it's kind.
So to me, a more practical definition with regards to Oakley, would be, "Oakley produced piece developed to help develop a product and not officially released to the public (e.g. employees for public use, or specific persons outside of Oakley e.g. sportsmen) regardless of whether it eventually was produced". This would cover failed partnership models (Ferrari) etc.
I'd distinguish them as being different from "one offs" (even though they may have been 30 pieces) which I'd define as "non-Oakley store released complete pairs (with or without packaging/boxes) given as sponsorship etc to athletes e.g. Sydney Olympic R1 with persimmon or organisations (e.g. bullrun gascans, cape epic/rapha jawbones) or given specifically to employee representatives (e.g. gascans with Swarovski crystals Oakley logo)".
In the "one off" category, I'd probably include the group "factory customs" which is Oakley employees involved in the production process themselves, doing a "frankenstein" product for themselves e.g. distressed mars, or frankstein Juliet that Romeo van frog stein sold recently. These experimental pieces didn't really serve to help advance new models. They were mashups for fun by people within Oakley for their own reasons. Obviously, these are quite rare, and no different from "customs", apart from the fact that the machines used to make them were not just Oakley, but "industrial" grade.
Of course, there probably is some grey areas too. As you know, some versions were available to the public, but only under certain circumstances e.g. Livestrong C6ers went to auction or were limited to a specific outlet e.g. Juan pelota jawbone, or more recently, the TP12 frogskin and Holbrook in Bangkok etc. Strictly speaking, not everyone had the same chance to access these pairs.
Oct 29, 2017 10:13 PM
Speak to Vasan @yakuzafloralgangsta. He may have one to sell. It has had 3 links cut off it.
Oct 29, 2017 9:49 PM
Thanks Flyer! List updated.
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