Hey guys, i'm thinking to get a transition HJ very soon but which one is better between the Black Persimmon to Grey and the VR50 to Brown?

The persimmon has an iridium coating so it seems like it would be more useful.

If you're gonna wear them at night, you'll like the VR50. Otherwise, go with the Black Persimmon.

Whatfor and when are you going to use it?

I would go with the black persimmon.

they don't get very dark outside. I tested them the other day by putting one of each in a bag and the others in one frame and going outside. the difference is there, but not particularly startling.

the brown gets about as dark as vr28 in full sunlight, which isn't very dark at all. the persimmon wasn't much better.

G30 is the golf lens... I'd use that for golf.

Transitions definately make sense for MTB.

This is the first generation of transition lens for Oakley, like many here have said, its not perfect but it should get better in the future.

Maybe you would be better with buying another lens in the meantime Fred.

it's not like they license the technology from somebody else or anything...

Well, i got the HJ transitions in Black Persimmon this afternoon. I'll use this mostly for sports (MTB, golf..)

I'll give it a try at the beach in two weeks. Anyways, i didn't have the chance to try it yet....

you could always get really dark lenses for when you needed them.

I really like the transitions lenses, one of the OPDs near me had several pairs in stock wiht the persimmon lenses, the lady there loves me to death so she just let me walk out of the store with three pairs to test out, i walked all the way down the street and then walked back, its great when the people know you! :D

I use my transitions VR 50 to Brown Monsterdogs in early evening boat patrol during that last 90 minutes of day light.

K

it's not like they license the technology from somebody else or anything...

As a matter of fact: Oakley does. The 'Activated by Transitions' lenses are Oakley Plutonite lenses, sent tc Transitions to be treated with 'Transitions V' technology.

I know. thanks for the info though edwin.
I was responding to the comment about Oakley still trying to get the Transitions right.

The transition time if pretty good on these if you ask me. I used to sell Serengeti, and photochromic Revo and the Oakley activated by transitions change faster and get darker in my opinion, combine that with HDO and you have the perfect photochromic lens!

But as most of you have said it is defiantly intended for more of a sports application.

They have a much greater transmission range than any of the Serengeti and Revo stuff.

Remember, they won't really work in a car, so don't buy 'em as a driving glass.

I'm thinking of getting a pair of black persimmon/gray racing jacket.

One thing I'd like to know is this: The lenses automatically respond to the light condition? I wonder what technology works for it.

UV light causes particles in the lens to expand and fill up more of the lens, thus making it darker. Lack of UV light lets them retract and clear up the lens. This is why it won't work in cars with UV filters.

Amazing!
Thank you Dann

I just got the VR50 - Brown Crosshairs. Initial reactions are positive, though the transition effect is less obvious than I thought it would be. I suppose that's because VR50 and Brown are very similar colors to begin with.

What's the transmission index of Brown anyway?

50%-18%, I think.

I don't work 'til Wednesday so I can't confirm.

yeah, i was playing with them in the store yesterday and i'm pretty sure I would only get these for a practical purpose, like i'm considering the RJ for biking.

I had the chance to try my HJ Black Persimmon to Grey yesterday. I'm very disapppointed because it's not dark enough and the black persimmon and grey are way too similar.