Hi guys,

Just wanted to get your opinion. I've been wanting to get some Pit Boss but waited so long that the Pit Boss II came out. I loved the fit of the original ones. Maybe better with the unubtatiunium.

But since they discontinued the X Metals I wanted go get at least one since they are such a badass piece. And iconic Oakley. The only ones left I see on the Oakley Site is X-Metal frame with ruby lenses


Cost aside, which ones would you get/recommend. I'd love to get your point of views on each. Thanks!

Pit Boss are undoubtedly nice shades, but FAR overpriced. I'd go with the X-Metals: more bang for your buck and much more durable.

Another vote for X-Metals. If cost is no issue, and I assume based on the two choices, they're going to be more sturdy and last much longer. The X-Metal/Ruby colorway is a great one anyhow, and the Pit Boss colors leave a lot to be desired.

X-Squareds all the way...there's lots of different lens options for the XS if you ever want additional replacement lenses, they're durable as heck, and you might as well jump on the x-metal train before they are completely disco-ed

My suggestion is, get one of each. They are both nice to have. Pit Boss 2 is still in its early stages. They may release better colorways later on, we shall see. X-Squared colorways are pretty much it. Go for those.

Yet another vote for the X-Squared.

Thanks for the feedback. I got a chance to try on the X-squared and they fit a little. I'll have to wait and try on the Pit Boss II.

What draws me to the Pit Boss is the better optics.

They will have completely different fits, so yeah best bet to try both and see what makes you happy, since in the end, that's all that matters.

X-Squared gets my vote. The polished frames w VR28 is definitely my favourite!!

The X-squared is going to be near impossible to find at this point....they are sold out everywhere. My opinion is that the Pit Boss (original) is much more bad ass...the Pit Boss II is not as cool nor is it ANSI Z87.1 certified....

ANSI Z87.1?

I would love a poll to see if the general Oakley collecting populace cares about ANSI Z87.1 vs. Z80.3. Z80.3 lenses come on the lifestyle/active/street wear models, so I'm curious if consumers would baulk at the lesser impact standard. Certainly less bragging rights.

So which ANSI is best?

Z87.1 is the higher impact standard.

Ok.

The Z80.3 ANSI rating is about and UV protection

per Wiki-"The U.S. standard is ANSI Z80.3-2001, which includes three transmittance categories. According to the ANSI Z80.3-2001 standard, the lens should have a UVB (280 to 315 nm) transmittance of no more than one per cent and a UVA (315 to 380 nm) transmittance of no more than 0.3 times the visual light transmittance." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunglasses

Z87.1 is the impact rating

Z80.3 (2001) is not just about UV protection and also involves impact standards as well. From the ANSI website:

http://www.ansi.org/news_publications/media_tips/can_see.aspx?menuid=7

"While the primary purpose of this eyewear is consumer comfort in bright surroundings, the standard for non-prescription sunglasses (ANSI Z80.3-2001) outlines several types of safety requirements, including protection from ultraviolet (UV) radiation, tolerances for refractive power, flammability resistance, and color discrimination (i.e., the ability to see traffic signals and Light Emitting Diode (LED) traffic control devices). Manufacturers must meet each of these requirements if they intend to express compliance with this American National Standard. They must also meet impact resistance requirements mandated by the Food and Drug Administration."

As well, Oakley's marketing states glasses such as PBII meets impact standards of Z80.3.

But yes, I know what you're saying.

They must also meet impact resistance requirements mandated by the Food and Drug Administration.

From what I heard, that impact standard is basically the mass of the high speed test with the speed of the high mass test.

Drop ball test from 50 inches of a 0.5oz steel ball (as opposed to heavier 1.1 pounds with the Z87.1 standard) without fracturing:

http://www.fda.gov/medicaldevices/deviceregulationandguidance/guidancedocuments/ucm070579.htm#12

I'm unclear as if there's a velocity test with it.

That sounds about right.