The deal with the plasma frames is....Oakley used to offer a plasma frame for the juliets that had kinda a silver-gold coating on the frame,and they quit making plasma in that color...I know because I had the older color(from 2001) and sent them into upgrade from non-polarized to polarized,and they sent me back the current style (plasma juliets),and I didn´t care for the color,but after calling to figure out why I sent in one color and got another back,they said that the older plasmas were having problems of discoloring,and they upgraded me to the current plasma....so..thats my expierience with it,I just scored a mint pair from ebay,for over 200 buck.So I hope that helps..