Oops. I feel retarded. Thanks for the correction. It is more like a Riddle then. It even has the metal hinges like a Riddle. The pic I happened to look at is decieving then. I should have done more research.At least this debate was much better than an O CS rep who claimed last summer that Duncan was Riddle and Dean was Gascan. Indentical, just rebranded. "That's why we created a new square icon, because Fox's logo is square."