I am in the market for a good pair of goggles and Im debating between the two. Anyone have any comments that would help makeup my mind would greatly help.

If you wear a helmet and want something brand new then go for the Crowbar snow. If you want maximum coverage and dont mind paying for a helmet strap then id say wisdom for sure.

Personally, i dont wear a helmet and like COVERAGE!

I really like my wisdom. If you like to ride in mid day and night, go with the pink or hi-blue lens. If you ride in the days go with the fire lens.

I really like the pink iridium lens, its clear for the night and good for the day. My girlfriend own a pair of A-frame with pink lens and she really like the lens. I tried it and its really nice!

Anyway its your choice... Helmet = crowbar, no helmet go for the wisdom.

Good luck in your choice!

I prefer the A Frame over the Wisdom. Some people complain that the A Frame has less peripheral visibility than the Wisdom, but it's still really good. I find the Wisdom looks a little too big on my head. The smaller A Frame also fits a little nicer under a helmet.

Haven't seen the Crowbar, but I'm still liking the more organic, rounded lines of the A Frame/Wisdom.

HI yellow for most overcast/low visibility days, blue iridium for the really bright days, and a few cheap plain persimmon lenses for when I'm picking lines through really tight trees and taking branches off the face.

Welcome to the site Jo, you will love it here !

Where you from by the way ? Quebec ?

I think im gonna go with the wisdom....now time to chose a frame and lens. I was thinking White Camo frame. Any ideas on a lens.

man... go with the HI-BLUE lens. Its a really great overall lens!

I have it and I really like it!

You will need a couple of lenses...for the varying light conditions. Where are you riding mostly? HI Blue (now called HI Yellow) is a fantastic lens, i also really like HI Persimmon and Black IR is a staple for thos unbearingly bright days.
Good luck

With or with out a helmet, Crowbar is sick. Wait utill you see the new Stretch Exclusive colors, anti freeze and all white w/ the old school logo. Sick. Riddle, Gas Can and Spike Rule. Be a leader, not a follower. That is what Oakley is all about.