Rob, you should be able to get the Motorola V710, E815 or Lg VX8100 anywhere Verizon is unless you're in some hick, backwoods area running off some old hand-crank powered analog tower! Even if they're holding off some models pending EVDO data, you should still be able to get the V710 which is a fine phone at a good price. & yes Nik, I immediately rearranged Lake's sentence. It's just how I process things but I also think it gave us all a disturbing insight into just how excited you were about getting the R-Wires!