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gamb-o
E Tamez
May 29, 2015 5:48 PM
Maybe this has been said in another thread, but someone with both models could tell if the AF Badmans (besides larger nose pads) have a little more squared frame? therefore lenses can't be switched between them.
Anyone?
eddyc
Eddy C
May 29, 2015 6:25 PM
AF Badman has a 6-base (flatter) frame, so I'm fairly certain the lenses are not interchangeable.
gamb-o
E Tamez
May 29, 2015 7:51 PM
Thanks, that would save money to more than one!!
Do anyone knows the large nose pads sku and if they can be ordered?

Dann
Dann Thombs
May 29, 2015 8:13 PM
101-097-001 is the SKU for the Madman Earsocks. Not sure if that includes the nose pieces or not. Could be a Warranty (internal) SKU rather than a Kit SKU.
NotyourTypicalOptician
James Smith
May 30, 2015 7:24 AM
The Asian fit nose pad is not orderable. It also would not fit on the international fit Badman.
DrChop
www.drchop shop.com
May 31, 2015 2:19 AM
AF Badman has a 6-base (flatter) frame, so I'm fairly certain the lenses are not interchangeable. - eddyc

That's not correct. Here's the info straight from O.com

Polarized Badman™ (Asia Fit)

The all-day comfort of lightweight diecast aluminum blends with the subtle flexibility of O MatterTM for an iconic look that honors the core of our culture, including the DNA that drives our relentless obsession to shape innovation with style.

Inspired by the attitude of our famed X Metal® collection, Badman™ combines the glare-reducing performance of HDPolarizedTM lenses with XYZ Optics® for unrivaled clarity at all angles of view, even with a full 8.75 base lens curvature that blocks peripheral sun and wind. We tooled the comfortable Three-Point Fit with the gripping power of Unobtainium® components and the precision of custom-engineered spring hinge mechanisms.

It is simply the nosepads. They have apparently moved away from changing the curvature of the frame when they have removable nosepads. Frames like Gascan, Frog, etc...all with molded noses, those would be different frames/lenses. Badman and Madman are the same, all but the nosepads being thicker/taller. Same as Pit Boss 2.
eddyc
Eddy C
May 31, 2015 3:54 AM
I wouldn't believe everything on O.com. The 6 base frame curvature is the only reason I can wear the AF Badman. Even with larger nosepieces, a standard fit frame would sit on my cheeks.

Oakleyforum actually came in handy on this one. See the linked thread:

http://www.oakleyforum.com/threads/6-base-badman.41466/

This prompted me to have my local O-store special order a pair for me so I could try them before buying. The frame really is quite flat... almost like a chunky aviator. Fits great, too.

Quick comparison... side view of the AF from the kineidou site (Japan):


Side view of the standard fit from O.com:


DrChop
www.drchop shop.com
May 31, 2015 4:24 AM
I wouldn't believe everything on O.com. The 6 base frame curvature is the only reason I can wear the AF Badman. Even with larger nosepieces, a standard fit frame would sit on my cheeks.

Oakleyforum actually came in handy on this one. See the linked thread:

http://www.oakleyforum.com/threads/6-base-badman.41466/

This prompted me to have my local O-store special order a pair for me so I could try them before buying. The frame really is quite flat... almost like a chunky aviator. Fits great, too.

Quick comparison... side view of the AF from the kineidou site (Japan):


Side view of the standard fit from O.com:


- eddyc

Funny enough, but regardless, it's just nosepads. Here's also the photo from O.com that show's the "asian" fit, however, you can clearly see it's the standard nosepads. Of course they aren't very reliable, but I can tell you when it comes to removable nosepad frames, that's all they are changing. I have both versions of Pit Boss 2 here, both exactly the same, except the pads. Same with the Valve as well.

Asian Fit pic from the rear


Standard fit from the rear


And same color frame as Asian Fit (just so you can see the same)
gamb-o
E Tamez
May 31, 2015 4:30 AM
Maybe the o-matter nose piece of the AF model that connects the orbitals is flatter than the regular one which gives a flatter look and feel but the lenses are the same thus be exchanged.
DrChop
www.drchop shop.com
May 31, 2015 4:51 AM
Maybe the o-matter nose piece of the AF model that connects the orbitals is flatter than the regular one which gives a flatter look and feel but the lenses are the same thus be exchanged.
- gamb-o

it appears as such in the top pic he posted from Japan. Has less bow in the nose at the crest
o-xide
Full Throttle @ 102 mph
May 31, 2015 7:48 PM
I made a mistake getting an AF Badman thinking its just the nose piece difference from my GF Badman. I ended up returning the AF because of disappointment.


Here are my findings while comparing the 2:
1) The GF has a rectangular lens while the AF has a squarer lens. (therefore they are not interchangeable lenses)
2) The GF has a more curved lens while the AF has a flatter lens.
3) The curve is more prominent on the GF's frame and nose bridge while the AF is way flatter.
4) The nosepiece difference as you guys already mentioned

Side by side says it all (courtesy of Joe)
Sitting on a flat surface, the GF is further away from the camera while the AF is closer to the cam.


AF on top with a smaller/squarer lens:
gamb-o
E Tamez
Jun 1, 2015 2:50 AM
Thanks O-XIDE, that cleared things out!
NotyourTypicalOptician
James Smith
Jun 1, 2015 8:49 PM
The posts that hold the nosepieces are positioned differently on the GF and AF models.

Even if someone needs a few mm of clearance for a GF model, you cannot just swap a nosepiece.
drbubbleeye
Scott T
Jun 3, 2015 6:37 PM

drbubbleeye
Scott T
Jun 3, 2015 6:37 PM

DrChop
www.drchop shop.com
Jun 3, 2015 6:42 PM
I made a mistake getting an AF Badman thinking its just the nose piece difference from my GF Badman. I ended up returning the AF because of disappointment.


Here are my findings while comparing the 2:
1) The GF has a rectangular lens while the AF has a squarer lens. (therefore they are not interchangeable lenses)
2) The GF has a more curved lens while the AF has a flatter lens.
3) The curve is more prominent on the GF's frame and nose bridge while the AF is way flatter.
4) The nosepiece difference as you guys already mentioned

Side by side says it all (courtesy of Joe)
Sitting on a flat surface, the GF is further away from the camera while the AF is closer to the cam.


AF on top with a smaller/squarer lens:
- o-xide

have you removed a lens from each to compare?
o-xide
Full Throttle @ 102 mph
Jun 3, 2015 9:09 PM
Sure did because I prefer the non-polarized one from the AF.
eddyc
Eddy C
Jun 3, 2015 11:08 PM
Good heavens, how much more evidence do you need to be convinced the AF and Standard are not the same?

Not trying to be rude... just not sure why it's so unbelievable.
gamb-o
E Tamez
Jun 3, 2015 11:32 PM
It is clear that the lenses and nose bridge can not be swapped but how about the nose pads?
Defenderoftheo
Defender
Jun 4, 2015 3:25 PM
It is clear that the lenses and nose bridge can not be swapped but how about the nose pads? - gamb-o


Even if someone needs a few mm of clearance for a GF model, you cannot just swap a nosepiece.
Defenderoftheo
Defender
Jun 4, 2015 3:26 PM


Even if someone needs a few mm of clearance for a GF model, you cannot just swap a nosepiece. - NotyourTypicalOptician

 
 
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